Please consider unlocking the majority of pages in the Special:Log/protect list, particularly templates.
The following Community Central pages provide a great explanation as to why I would make this request:
...how are you doing? Been a while... I must say I'm impressed about what has happened here - and still is; also that I'm sorry for leaving you alone. Let me talk about that a bit.
The recent few months were ... different. Put shortly, I failed at the university, found a good friend to show me another path in my life, and now I'm a bit scared about my future. There are possibilities to keep studying but I'm not too sure about that anymore.. it seems like this won't work out. To me. I also improved my physical appearance thanks to my - meanwhile - boyfriend. Hi I'm gay. No joke.
I just felt like giving up this wiki a bit to have more time for myself. One day I thought about telling you I wouldn't be working a lot here, but I was absent so long I forgot about it.
Enough of that. If you really want to know more or talk/chat about JC, contact me on Skype @ "naali314". You can even call me if you want, but be aware my english - spoken - is not really good.
Yes, I've changed. About 9 months ago, like no one of the sentences above would come from my fingers typing this text right now.
I also see there's someone going on a rampage here. Wow, I'm impressed. Hey Emily, do you know how I came to bureaucrat rights? This guy could have done the same thing as I did several months ago I think. Nice job merging the wikis by the way.
Right now I'm waiting for some companies to answer to my applications - while playing Warframe and such stuff, but this sometimes becomes boring, like today.
Oh yeah. The name's Patrick. Nice to know you guys.
Holy shit, it's so surreal to finally talk to you! I hope nothing here is too shocking! Me and Levant of Syrus talked awhile back, and I said if you can make me an admin (back in July I think), it'll be in good hands.
I think there's another 700+ pages now (a lotWIP, but still) that me and Chimera-Gui have worked on a lot.
I know how you feel, my university life hasn't gone as well as I would have liked :( But it's what I want to do (music) so I'm not going to give up, and neither should you.What do you mean another path in life?
Love the Hi I'm gay bit haha, you shouldn't be afraid about your sexuality. Hey, so much so that I hope one day, gay men, lesbians and otherwise can just say "my boyfriend/girlfriend", etc. without feeling that they need to say "oh yeah, I'm gay" like it needs to be justified. It's 2015 haha.
I was thinking of contacting you on YT as I saw you fairly active on their recently but then I thought you'd probably be back around at some point anyway. My name on YT is StarchaserXFER YouTube, go subscribe and like my 2, COUNT THEM, 2! videos atm haha, I need the support so i can make some (finally) decent JC videos and otherwise.
My skype is starchaserxfer (email@example.com), feel free to chat to me too if I'm online. I gave bureaucrat rights to you and Emily, though it isn't really necessary, I just thought I'd give as much rights as possible to the 2 more important users here.
I hope you mean rampage in a good way? Haha. My main focus has been JC2, though I've done other bits like changing the front page, a news section, changing the featured video, an archive page, loads of stuff. Acheivements too! I want all the badges! I'm gonna try and get a music player on here at some point too. Quite proud of my soundtrack page too for JC1 (http://thejadecocoonproject.wikia.com/wiki/Jade_Cocoon%3A_Original_Soundtrack).
Yeah the merging process was actually pretty straight forward. Chimera-gui has helped me a lot to say the least. There's only one other page to do and that's it, the interlanguage links are also done :)
Emily said she was taking some time off for herself too, which is understandable. You should look after yourself first before anybody else. It'll be nice to see you around here again a few times and start contributing again, the Emily and you had can (and will) still come to fruition. I'd say we're about 70% there already!
Another path in my life: well, my friend(s) back there on Digimon Online (yeah, that's where I first met my boyfriend ^^) told me about themselves: about what they think about the world, what they witnessed in their lifes, their experiences.. they made me think about me.
Surely you (all) didn't know it, but I was an asshole before. My boyfriend witnessed things I'd never want anyone to experience. He lives like in another dimension - yeah, it's a long-distance relationship - but still... I think he really suits me. I swore to him to change my mind and attitude - it's a bit hard and long to explain everything ^^ the main point imo is that before, I didn't want to come in contact with too many people, but now I do.
I'm not really afraid of saying I'm gay - anymore. I see no point in listening to religions or retards saying that it's not normal. Let me turn the tables: am I right in saying that heterosexuality is not normal because I'm gay and it's not normal to me? Of course not.
Oh yeah, that YT thingie. I saw a link to one of Eras' videos one day on the german wikia - I thought I'd check that guy out and gave him/her some hints about things I know. Some of his most recent vids are inspired by my knowledge.
What do you mean with those bureaucrat rights? Did I miss something or aren't bureaucrats the only ones who can give bureaucrat rights? Afaik I already was bureaucrat before - once I adopted this wiki. Ah well. To be honest, you deserve them too - just say the word and I can give you those.
I mean, you and Chimera-gui really did a nice job here. I'll never be creative enough to create something that nice; I was thinking about better designs for the pages I made, but it never really worked out. You did better there. For now, I think I should have a closer look at what happened here, open questions and I should start working again at the german wikia. You could also show me the most important new things you discovered. I must say I'm pretty excited =)
It's pretty amazing how much just one or a few people can change your life for the better. From what I read, I never thought you cam across as an asshole or anything but hey, it's not really important what I think. If you wanted to change your life for whatever reason, go for it.
That's what I mean, most religions/people are so warped in their unfoundational philosophies it's disgusting. I bet there are still some moronic people out there that thing being gay is a choice XD
I'm not sure on the specifics of rights and that, but I know that only admins can make other people admins and that. I dished out the chat mod rights as well as we've got a live chat feature now. Hopefully, it'll be used more in the future. Alan Scotti from GameFAQs is here now (Lexichu), so that's a great start, as well as a couple of other users. From what I see, bureacratic rights are locked so I don't know what happened haha. It has a log of peoples rights, and it says I dished out mod and chat mod rights, that's it.
It'd be cool to have the Spanish and German wikias in-line with this one at some point. Not that this one is more important, but it obviously has more info. Once it is actually done, we can then make sure all the info from here is on the other two and 100% translated, then from there they can be pseudo-independant.
Most, if not, all the pages you've done are fantastic, me and Chimera have just tidied up stuff as it were. The Minion template is as good as it's going to get really, so that's why we started on JC2 pages.
I suppose one of the main things to look at which is different is the new theme, to spice things up a bit. I'd say other more important/main changes are:
1) Main page - News section, new polls, new featured vid section, a Did You Know? section
2) The cheats page has been expanded a bit (Book of Anomalies)
There are so many other big changes here I can hardly remember them all haha.
If you'd like to dish out more rights to me, that'd be grand. Again, the wiki is in good hands I guarantee it. I'm here most days doing stuff anyway haha. I'm not sure if Chimera would benefit from more rights as well as he's very experienced and well-versed in wiki editing and such like.
I'll grant you bureaucrat as well as Chimera admin rights. It's up to you to decide what you want to do with those - if you think you don't need them just remove them yourself. As bureaucrat, you can also give admin and bureaucrat status to other people. Also, only you can remove them (ok maybe someone from the wikia staff can do so too)
By the way. The basic design for the minion template came from Emily, thank you for that. I simply improved it and added stuff we found out later.
For now I'll have a look at all changes and new pages and in a few days I'll get some stuff done at the german wikia again. I'm also there for any open questions from now on. Again, good job you two!
Hi there, Patrick! I'm Hollis! You probably remember me from when the wikis weren't merged! I was the person who kept bugging you about things, like the 6th Stat in Jade Cocoon: Story of the Tamamayu.
I've kind of been helping out behind the scenes as a psuedo-contributor. I have a lot of knowledge on the bits of Jade Cocoon 2, and I am working on analyzing the bosses of the game and the Kalma locations within the game code.
In fact, I am starting to work on the Kalma locations, but I also need someone to help me analyze bosses, because doing all of this work while trying to balance school and a band in my spare time is getting to be a chore. I barely have time to do this, and when I do, I get asked to do something else.
I also tested a dummied-out ability in Jade Cocoon 2 that causes Chroming. I found out that same ability is tied to another dummied-out ability that causes the stat changes. The second dummied-out ability doesn't even need to be in the beast's ability repertoire for it to function; all it needs is the ability that causes Chroming. This, I believe, was a huge breakthrough for finding out more about the game.
If you need any information about Jade Cocoon 2, I'm the guy to go to, and I probably know about it. (I mainly have knowledge on bosses, Seed Beasts, moves, abilities, and now, wild Kalma!)
Anyway, nice to meet you, and I hope you are doing well.
Oh wow, it's great to hear from you again Naali! You probably don't know me under this moniker but it's AllanScotti off the GameFAQs boards.
Wow, you've had a lot going on, but I'm glad you're back. I'm not really much good at making elongated speeches, so I'm just going to say that it's good to hear you're doing well, and I hope your applications will get back to you soon. :3
Hey Naali, do you have Skype and/or Facebook? I'm going to be around a lot here so would be cool to speak to you and chat JC. Also, I've done a lot of edits recently, added some new pages with others planned. I also asked about becoming an admin and other things.
We could do that, but our wiki focuses on JC 1, while this here also focuses on JC 2. I also think we don't have anyone who would work on that - I can't help there as I don't have enough time to do that.
I understand not having anyone to work on the JC2 and wanting to focus on JC, but Wikis for the same series should be merged per Unification Project even if the wikis cover different games in the series.
Plus, this ensures that traffic to [[w:c:jadecocoon]] comes here instead.
You pretty much convinced me, but I have just few more questions while I want to survey the community:
Chimera-gui wrote: And you can also request to change the merged wiki's URL to "jadecocoon" rather than "thejadecocoonproject" if you so wish.
I've never experienced a wiki merge, as you can imagine. Do you know how this works? I mean, is it possible to "absorb" the JC2 wiki and put everything (even this forum for example) on the "jadecocoon" URL? It would be great if we could keep our forum threads and everything and just change the URL.
Plus, this ensures that traffic to [[w:c:jadecocoon]] comes here instead.
Do you know how this works? No details, just some basics. I'm just curious about that.
Snapping the minions in the story forests is fairly easy, so I'll hunt those soon. Not with my camera though, because that way the pictures will be unnecessarily bad. Also, where to add these? Most certainly they fit in the Appearance section.
Surely appearance. Another example of a non combat pose is the Geenwee & Co minions.
I had to use my camera for this, cauz I can't do screenshots in my TV. =/
(btw, can we consider the Growth Lv.3 as the basic Growth Level ? I mean, because the Lv.1 is too small and the final, Lv.5, is too big and the Lv.3 is in the middle, so, we should take the middle one because it's between those two levels, I hope you get it ^^)
I just saw your latest edits and I wondered about the Palooja page. There you wrote about the Jitamble family being immune to critical, but I did often hit them in the past years with the Icicle after many attempts. They dodge like the first 15 to 20 hits, but around after that, they maybe get hit by Icicle.
The spider / crab family, however, never got hit by me with this. Any suggestions?
After many attempts? That's fine then. I actually defined "immune" for myself as "could still be hit/affected by whatever it is with a veeery low probability", as I wasn't sure whether or not the actual probability is exactly zero. And it seems as if it is like this. The probability should be so low that I'd say you had bad luck with the spiders.
Maybe we can find a better expression for the zero-DM now.
Sorry to pester you, but I discovered a very creepy thing that happened to me upon crashing the game!
So I was doing the merge viewer glitch where it gives off a completely different monster and posture most of the time... When I tried to perform the glitch with a Jirahl, I viewed the first slot, and the game crashed and this low tone started playing that really creeped me the hell out! It keeps playing until you reset whatever system you're playing on (PS1, PS2, or PS3 (or maybe in the future, PS4)). Just wanted you to know! It's really creepy! If you want to hear it, purposefully crash the game by doing that glitch, and listen to it through either headphones or an amplifier...
About that glitch: it might read data at the slots where there is actually no minion. There mostly should be rubbish - but the game might think you're going to preview the merge with that broken data which is in these slots. Now attempting to view minions with boss minion merge slots / postures crashes the game. Might have been the cause there.
Also, the PS4 won't become downward compatible afaik. Quite a shame imo.
True, while it won't be compatible, they are planning the PlayStation Now service; allows cloud streaming of PS1, PS2, and PS3 games, though to be quite honest, if they did that, they would make it worse than the PS3 does already... :/
But I still can't explain why that creepy crash tone played... I did have at least 11 other monsters in my storage, so I think maybe I inadvertandly came upon a boss posture/minion merging slot? Like I said before, it's all just fruitless guessing...
Uh... wait. You press circle for that glitch, right? I just did a small experiment to see what it actually does.
So, the circle button in that menu will attempt to load the minion in that peticular slot. Now imagine you had spun a minion in that certain slot just before. If you circle in that slot now, it will load its model. Rebirth? Nope. It means that its data remained in this slot's memory. However, the one variable that determines whether or not there "is something" was changed to "there's nothing".
Now in my opinion the game shuffles some weird stuff into unused slots. If you attempt to view that minion (what you shouldn't be able to actually, because there "is nothing") it will load this weird stuff.
I don't know whether it's random - maybe you can change what's in there. I only had two possible outcomes in my experiment, each time it changed when I left and talked to Mahbu again.
I wanted to theorize something and see if it might pique your interest.
I've been thinking for a little while and I've thought, "Huh... some monsters in this game are pretty hard to capture, and some aren't as hard to capture...", but I put this off for a little while until five minutes ago when I was poking around at monster stats (specifically Terash, Patash, Arvalzak, Ticker, and Jirahl). This got me to thinking about a couple of possible ideas for identifying the mysterious 6th Stat that you've designated. So I have a couple of ideas:
1) What if the 6th Stat is the Catch Rate?
2) What if the 6th Stat is a Catch Resistance Rate?
I know I might sound like a broken record when I'm theorizing these, but hear me out.
Looking through all the goat-monsters, I can see that there's a minor fluctuation in their 6th Stat, with Fedelco's being the lowest, and Arvalzak's being the highest, while Kamra, Jirahl, and Spiral are all in the middle. Now in my past experiences, even with a high catch level, Fedelco has always been pretty hard to catch for me, as well as Arvalzak, but Arvalzak was just slightly easier than Fedelco. Maybe Fedelco has a lower catch rate than all the other monsters, and some of the others have been easier to catch... The weird thing is, the unobtainables and bosses all have high 6th Stats, especially Jeechwo and the Chosen One (with the highest at 190), and the boss minions (Delfanel, Tuturis and Seterian all having zero). Another weird thing is that some of the merge-only minions have relatively mediocre 6th Stats; Tweengo has 100, while Sherrick has 110, and even Asha has 100 as her 6th Stat! That's my theory on a catch rate. For an equation, I think it would follow similarly to Nintendo's Pokemon franchise, where it depends on how much HP you have left, but of course without Poke Ball modifiers. Something like:
(CatchLevel*MonsterTotalHP/MonsterCurrentHP/100) So for example if my CatchLevel was 24, the monster's TotalHP was 500, and it's CurrentHP was 120, it would equal 6,000. Divide that by 100, and you would get a 60% chance of capture. It's all just a theory though...
And my second thing; the Catch Resistance Rate. This might sound like a really strange thing, but hear me out.
Looking at Air Vatolka, Jeechwo, the Chosen One (if he could be captured), Skapara, the first 15 monsters listed in the complete monster list, and various other monsters just to name a few, you can see they have a relatively high base 6th Stat with the highest obtainable base 6th stat belonging to Skapara, with an astounding 170. If this were to be the Catch Resistance Rate, this would make sense for some of those monsters, including Skapara and Terhambu, which have high base 6th Stats, and are pretty annoying to catch, even with the appropriate catch level! Tell me this, in your first play-through of the game, how many of those tiny bastard -hambus and -paras did you manage to catch? They are extremely annoying! However, on the other hand, some of these would have super-low catch resistance rates, like the goat-monsters, the -odons, -moajs, and other lines just to name a few. They would be so easy to catch, it's not even funny! What about the unobs and boss minions, you could catch the boss minions at full health if you were at Level 1 if you wanted, because their catch resistance rate would be ZERO.
I know you've seen me rant a little bit, and you might think this is stupid, but it's something to think about... :)
So you're basically saying that the lower the stat, the lower the catch rate - but on the other hand that a high one also lowers the rate, based on examples? So 100 would be a neat high catch rate? I mean, it can't be both in the end. Well I don't know. Actually I can't say that I really felt many differences between any two minion species. However my last captures were a long time ago.
Do you know about the current theory? I think it's the critical strike chance. Give that a shot - try some hambu's and some goaties. Anyways did you ever see f. e. Seterian / Tuturis / Delfanel crit? Ok they don't basic attack often except maybe Delfanel, but they just don't crit.
/a bit offtopic Also did you ever try and sum GR together? I mean of obtainable minions. It's always around 600. Hambu's and such are pretty bad regarding their non-crit stats, however the crit stat is huge. Noticed that when I wanted to add some sums to the minion tables...
I'm saying if the 6th stat was the catch rate, then a higher number would mean a higher catch rate, and a lower number would mean a lower catch rate (and with some status modifiers too). I think what I said about the Catch Resistance rate is all a bunch of nonsense now that I think about it... :(
You know... now that you mention it, whenever I face it, Jeechwo always seems to land a critical hit at least every 2-4 hits, whether it uses Fang - Break Legs or it's normal attack... I'll look into it and battle a couple of Jeechwo to see if it really is... Actually, I have had Tuturis land a critical hit on me a couple of times during my 80 bazillion playthroughs of the game, and Seterian actually critically hit me once during one of my playthroughs, though strangely enough, Delfanel never critically hit me... weird...
Now that you mention adding up GRs, it does seem rather odd... I looked at Skapara all skeptical of your statement, but I saw that you were not wrong... Skapara is still 10 points off from being at 600, and looking at Teralco I saw that it was 30 points higher in the sum of all of the GRs... I don't know man, it's all just fruitless guessing right now...
Well, I don't mind if zero as a (f.e. crit/poison/stone/sleep/death) rate in the game means 1/4'228'250'625 chance or so. True, that can be that way, but thing is, it's just significantly low. ^^
I once did some examples with different 6th stats and checked the crit rate at about 120 hits or so... it really showed. Can't find that full discussion anymore though I think... only this I wrote on GameFAQs, I'll quote myself:
6th stat GR: 200 -> 26/120 crits -> 21,6% crit chance 6th stat GR: 0 -> 0/120 crits